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How to Respond to a Suicidal Chatter
New Hope Case Discussion

Dr. Bill Gaultiere

Here's a chat room conversation with a suicidal man that didn't go well. This interaction is a helpful reminder for all of us on the importance of the two most important New Hope Counseling skills, especially for crisis calls: triage (focusing on the most urgent concern) and active listening. In the discussion that follows names are omitted. The caller's comments are in bold.

Welcome to New Hope Online. How can I help you?

I feel hopeless...no use to continue on. I've been through a divorce, lost career, lost my children. You name it!!!!!!!!!!!

You sound as though you have been through quite a meat grinder.

For the last 1 year and 13 days now.

Comments: The counselor connects with the caller's pain and the conversation gets off to a good start.

Wow, I wish I had an easy fix, but I don't. How many children do you have? Do you ever see them?
I have 3.........I have just got to see my 3 yr old, very little in the last year.
Comments: The easy fix comment is not helpful. The counselor needs to continue to respond to the caller's pain. The caller opened by saying that he feels hopeless and that it's no use for him to continue on. He may be suicidal and so the counselor needs to assess this directly.

Alternative response: "I hear that you've been in so much pain for so long that it's hard for you to go on. Are you having thoughts of killing yourself?" (If the answer is yes, then assess the risk carefully with additional questions, as suggested in the "Summary" section below.)

Do you live near your children?
About 50 miles or so away.
That's not real close, but not really so distant these days. Do you still have a car available, even if it's not yours? Does your ex cooperate in helping the kids have access to their Dad?
No - none at all.
That's a shame. Parents who bad mouth or try to keep the kids away from the other parent will often have bitter, angry children later who are angry with the parent who kept them away.

Comments: The inquiry into this man's relationship with his children is a good idea as a means to look for some positive motivation for him to live or perhaps to connect with his sadness over not seeing his children. It doesn't work though, partially because the counselor changes the focus to the ex-wife and makes some negative assumptions about her. Unfortunately, this brings up more problems for the caller to be depressed about and he wants to end the conversation prematurely. Instead the counselor needs to reflect feelings to connect and comfort.

Alternative response: "I hear that your children are very important to you and you really miss them."

I have to go... I've hurt long enough!!! Sorry for taking up your time.
I have to go....
You are not taking up my time. Although it doesn't seem like it now, the situation is bad. I won't say it isn't. I've been through similar times twice in my life. There is a brighter day ahead.
Twice ???
Comments: The counselor makes a helpful clarification for the caller who apparently feels guilty by saying "You are not taking up my time." Then he/she tries to give this man some hope by reassuring him. He does need hope, but this approach doesn't work, partially because the two haven't established a good connection. She/he tries to connect with the caller here using his/her own story, but he's too depressed about his own problems to think about anyone else's. Instead, he/she should keep the focus on the caller and demonstrate concern for his feelings.

Alternative response: "It seems that you feel bad for using my time. Please don't. I want to talk to you. I'm concerned for you. You're really hurting and I want to do what I can to help you."

God loves you and so do we. Please come back soon.
I won't be here to come back.
Yes, twice. Turn the numbers around in your age and that's how old I am.
I feel 136.
All I can say is don't do anything foolish and final. You will have a good life later. I don't know how long, but things do change and a better day comes.
Yes, l can understand how you fell so old and despairing. Like I said, I have lost a mate, children, my career and my health twice in my life. It is a terrible time.

Comments: (Some of the replies seem out of sequence because of the time delay of the comments appearing in the chat room.) The counselor's comment, "Please come back soon," expresses his/her concern for the caller. The man's reply of an implied suicide threat, "I won't be here to come back," is very disturbing. It takes us back to the point of despair he started at and leaves us very concerned for his well-being. He doesn't like the counselor talking about his/her age and so he "one ups" him/her to get the focus back on himself. He/she makes an important last plea for him "not to do anything foolish or final." Then the caller abruptly ends the call.

Alternative Response: "It scares me to think that you might kill yourself! Please don't leave! Let's talk some more. I'm very concerned for you and for your children too. They need you alive."

Summary: There's two things we need to learn from this conversation.

  1. Attempting to prevent suicides is our most important service. We need to take it seriously whenever a caller is depressed, despairing, or not wanting to live and assess whether or not there is an immediate risk and then respond. Ask if the caller is suicidal. Ask if the person has a plan and how and when he or she'd do it. Ask if anyone knows and what it would take for him or not to attempt. If the suicide is in progress or might be imminent then we trace the call on the phones and send out the police to take the person to the hospital. In the chat room, use the location information from the user profile and if you don't have it then ask for it. If you can't get it then you have to do the best you can to talk the person through the suicidal feelings by demonstrating care, finding a reason to live, and setting a contract for the suicidal person to call New Hope back or talk to another caring, responsible person soon.
  2. Using active listening skills to connect with the caller's feelings and needs in the moment is the heart of New Hope Counseling. We can't help people if we don't do that. Don't digress into secondary factual information. Don't change the focus to talk about your own problems. Instead, use open-ended questions to invite further and deeper self-disclosure, offer summaries of what you're understanding so far to clarify and validate, and reflect feelings to connect emotionally. Active listening skills like these are essential and should be used in every New Hope Conversation.
 
     
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